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Intracommunication and diligence May 16, 2011

Filed under: Random Stuff — indorfpf @ 10:29 am

Should we need to do some video conferencing in the future, I think there are several options. I’ve read online that Skype is conferencing-capable but I have never done it before. Oovoo (http://www.oovoo.com/home.aspx) is web software that is free and specializes in conferencing. We can shift to that should Skype fail. Webex (http://www.webex.com/overview/index.html) has been recommended as a goto program for businesses, but they work on a free TRIAL basis.

If anyone wants to try and test this stuff out, just give me a ring.

Any juicy conversation tidbit I missed on Friday?


The Land Agenda — Let’s talk Timelines again April 24, 2011

Filed under: Decision Making,Finance,Question: Needs Input,Vision — lily @ 10:36 pm

I made this little art piece above my door last week, if you can see all the way to the left it reads “The Land Agenda”.  The Land Agenda is simply:

Buy land by the time I’m 30.

So, that’s four years people. Not very long! But also not tomorrow. I remember sometimes that I’ve been here in SF for just over 2.5 years and have created sooo much, 4 years is a long time. But it is also very short and there are many things to figure out before a group buys land together, which is also part of The Land Agenda. So it’s really:

Buy land with a group by the time I’m 30.

QUESTION for the delightful masses: What is your ideal timeline? Don’t worry about mine, just state honestly what feels good to you right now in your life for a timeline.




also a question! April 20, 2011

Filed under: Uncategorized — serif @ 7:44 pm

so! what is the word on bringing in other contributors to this blog dealie? I have a beloved friend (currently a farmer, studying horticulture therapy, and is a working blacksmith/jeweller) . I think Lil and Kele both know Jimmi (now called Gowan). Anyway she is marvellous and serious about this idea and I would love to invite her to brainstorm and dream with us. If this is just a pickles and clara deal thats just fine, I just wanted to ask. See what the thoughts are on this one. So! please post your thoughts!



Global Village construction set. you heard me.

Filed under: Architecture,Farms,Uncategorized — serif @ 7:30 pm

It is happening:  there is a group designing and publishing DIY farm tools for buliding your own village. interchangeable motors and parts so each tool needn’t have its own. and. well. basically it all the big tools you need but things you could make yourself for less money AND they are built like legos so you need many fewer resources.

here’s a link to an article about the project in general. i reccommend clicking it and watching the video at the end of the article, its a good intro to the project.


and here is the wiki of the project itself!


Amazing stuff! Love you all!!


Virginia Polyface Farm March 9, 2011

Filed under: Uncategorized — lily @ 11:01 am

Phil, you *need* to check out this farm in the shenandoah valley:  http://www.polyfacefarms.com/ this dude is AWESOME. hes talking permaculture in your language and mine. will you visit and report back???




Unintentional Community and Daily Life March 3, 2011

It all comes down to daily life. Yes, there can be splendid moments of other worldly transcendence, but choosing to live life as a human means, at a minimum, eat, sleep, breathe, poop. There are cultural add-ons like taxes, sidewalks, and math class, but ultimately, there is just no escaping those basic human needs and the activities  and factors that have grown out of securing them. It is certainly meaningful, fun, and necessary to create and attend events and activities that are outside of those that occur everyday, but ultimately it is the venue of the home base that feels the most real, space and people included. Why is that? Why do humans have such a division between home life and outside life? Is it architecture, the mere dichotomy between indoor and outdoor space and having to travel between the two? Is it the fact that the the sun rises and sets, giving us days season years that make the repeated acts seem somehow more real? It is easy for me to get focused on projects and really feel in the flow of them, but then they are over, and I look at each new project and think that someday it will be over too. I want something all encompassing, something that integrates daily life with those bigger projects and a sense of reverence pervading throughout. It seems like intentional community is the only way to make that happen, where each action is an expression of the choice to sustain life and practice the glory of being alive. But does it have to be on a farm to make it happen? Why is it that growing your own vegetables or building your own house or pumping your own water makes life feel more integrated and real?

Maybe it is because of the extraordinary mass of stuff in our lives. Even a trip to the bathroom involves toilets made of ceramic, metal, plastic and any number of pieces produced and shipped by any number of other factories, toilet paper made obviously from trees then put in more factories, toilet paper holders, cleaning products with chemicals and more factories and more trucks and more shipping and industrial designers coming with bottle designs and graphic designers designing labels and marketers figuring out the demographics of how many people are buying the products, and all of this before even considering the amazing complexity of the systems of pipes and structures getting water to your toilet and then flushing it away to another building to clean it and maybe even back into the ocean…basically endless systems requiring endless resources and endless people so that any given day you may have been relying on the work of thousands (millions?) of other people just to go about doing “normal” activities.

And that’s what feels real about living off the land. Cutting out that noise. Living in consumer culture we are surrounded by larger and more complex communities than ever before in human history, and we have no idea who these people are and where these resources are coming from. When you are sustaining yourself on your “own” land, you have a direct relationship with all of the elements in your realm of experience, human and otherwise. These relationships are deeper and stronger because you depend on them for survival, but also because of the simple fact that you are aware of them. Each element of your life can be something that you choose to be directly present in. Do you need to be on a farm to live intentionally? No. But in cities and suburbs, the task of even identifying all of the elements of your surroundings (let alone their origin, history, or function) is nearly impossible. While it may not be necessary to know these things, the more you are unaware of, the less connected you are to the systems in place, and the more you are a cog in someone else’s machine. If it’s a good machine, well, then great. But how do you even know if it’s good if you don’t know what the machine is?

This is why I feel strongly about having a community that isn’t cut-off from the rest of the world. It may seem counter-intuitive to say that after railing about how alienating it is to be part of a system you have no connection to and how important it is to live simply, but that is precisely why intentionality is so important. Maybe my naive fantasy is to live completely cut-off from the consumerist world for a few years and then like Zarathustra come down from the mountain and start to spread the word. But these massively tangled global systems are where all of the people and resources are, and that is where our work as world-waker-uppers is. Because guess what? All of those people tangled in the systems are world-waker-uppers, too. All of them.

We’re seven billion strong.


Blood-Lust Chickens and Renegade Sheep: A First Timer’s Guide to Country Living by Nick and Anita Evangelista (1999) November 23, 2010

Filed under: Book Review — indorfpf @ 6:18 pm


Moving to the country is a difficult endeavor. Even in the best of times it is difficult. Leave the city arrogance in the city and be aware that the country life is not for everyone, not even for those who desperately want it.

“So how do you survive a move back-to-the-land in any kind of situation? It is, we think, the people with a high tolerance for boredom, disaster, and simplicity who survive. Also, those who haven an ability to improvise and roll with the punches. Where does this ability come from? It doesn’t come from having stuff. We think it comes from having a mindset geared towards enduring and surviving. A realistic idea for what one might encounter in any situation is a must. Fantasy doesn’t make it in the country.”

CHAPTER ONE: To Move or Not to Move?


FREEDOM! Your life is your own. This brings both a sense of responsibility and balance. Consequences come quickly in the country if you don’t direct yourself with discipline and intelligence. Freedom brings self-discipline or self-destruction.

Personal Growth. You will gain abilities you never thought you would have. You will become… competent. You will become a problem solver, not a victim.

With all these new features in life comes a sense of reality, a view of the world as it is. Life slows down to a human pace so you can see it, feel it, and understand it.

You will gain good judgment.You will claim your life. Personal responsibility is a lot higher than in the city where so much is transferred to the machine.

Surviving Your Move Back to the Land

Moving back to the land takes a concerted effort, a plan, a change in the way you view the world. You need to know what to do, and what not to do. Cultivate a “moving-to” attitude as opposed to a “moving-away” attitude focusing on working towards the future instead of constantly being fixated upon the past.

Gauging Your Capacity

Be honest and upfront about your capabilities from the start. Lose the cockiness and the ego. Keep plans small and grow to your psychological limit. We had seventy head of sheep and even though we knew what we were supposed to do, it was too much to handle psychologically. So start small and learn your limits slowly.

Your Expectations

You will have expectations about the area where you’ll be moving to, about your responsibilities, about the people. Try your best not to assume too much. There will have to be many adaptations made to the environments around you, whether social, environmental, etc.

Word of mouth is powerful, so use it to your benefit and not your detriment. Country people and small-town people are slow to accept change. This can be seen as a stubbornness or stupidity. Or it can be seen as a stability and strength where people will be what they are and say what they think.